Verbose is a common word in Linux land. It simply means to display more stuff in your error logs and similar. It is also common that you have multiple levels of verbose, so you might call a like this
I think verbose is a defacto standard, and not really solidly defined. I think it varies from developer to developer and is done however that developer happened to choose to use it.
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:39 pm
by 960
I dont get this working good, and have lots of strange happenings with the ETB.
First of all setting the duty:
I have it closed with just around -4, and open at around 16.
It moves wery slow when pressing the pedal, and are "pulsing" a little all the time.
Is this normal?
When adding numbers to PID fields again, first P it does not reach 100% open anymore.
When setting P (I recall too low), when closing, it "hangs" around 20% for some seconds before it drop to zero.
Also, what are the offset for?
If not at 0, ETB opens, and with just 20 it's around 40% open.
I know I am doing something wrong here, but just dont understand what
Verbose is a common word in Linux land. It simply means to display more stuff in your error logs and similar. It is also common that you have multiple levels of verbose, so you might call a like this
I think verbose is a defacto standard, and not really solidly defined. I think it varies from developer to developer and is done however that developer happened to choose to use it.
I see
Then it definitivly doesn't belong in the "Car" world
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:42 pm
by AndreyB
with no logs and no tune you rely on telepathy alone
This is your bias curve but without your PID settings. Can you please just post your log? It could also be nice if you use https://getsharex.com/ to make screen shots - but ONLY if you also post your tune file which is usually called currenttune.msq
It's really sad that we have no logs It's valuable information, please invest a bit more time in sharing more objective data.
No ETB cranking or idle at the moment, this is something I will be working on pretty soon. Probably after you post your first logs
This is your bias curve but without your PID settings. Can you please just post your log? It could also be nice if you use https://getsharex.com/ to make screen shots - but ONLY if you also post your tune file which is usually called currenttune.msq
It's really sad that we have no logs It's valuable information, please invest a bit more time in sharing more objective data.
No ETB cranking or idle at the moment, this is something I will be working on pretty soon. Probably after you post your first logs
I will continue tomorrow, and make some logs.
Reason I didnt today was that I was sure my setup was wrong, or I misunderstand.
When I do the setup, I cannot move the ETB freely both ways, like there was no spring.
Then I would have to disconnect the pedal?
Should the duty be changed after the PID setting?
I found these values so strange, they differ so much both from yours and the LINK/MaxxEcu basemaps.
They go to about the same value both negative and positive.
Rest of the settings was mostly the same as you posted I think, but I have tried changing a lot.
This is the currenttune I have now, if you will check if anything are wery wrong
[The extension msq has been deactivated and can no longer be displayed.]
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:07 am
by AndreyB
@ please report your Final Result. Log files are automatically written to "out" folder.
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:21 pm
by AndreyB
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:53 pm
by 960
Going out to test again soon!
Btw, I have a F767 at this board, can this alter something?
It's got other speed, are the pwm still correct?
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:10 pm
by AndreyB
please validate using a logic analyzer and report if any issues. there is exactly zero people on staff
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:26 pm
by 960
Just a theory, the initial ETB setup could be done automatically with just one routine/button ?
1. disable pedal position/PID
2. store the tps rest position
3. increase negative duty until tps adc stop counting, store min.
4. increase duty until tps stops counting, store max.
5. increase negative duty until it reaches 0%, store min duty.
6 increase duty until it reach 100%, store max duty.
Am I totally wrong, or what do you think?
Re: electronic throttle body control ETB
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:41 pm
by AndreyB
Please post a log of your best settings with the standart test in fresh console, i believe we have no data to discuss without it.
please try your algorithm and report results. the only way to know is to try things and gather hard evidence. please start posting hard evidence
Just a theory, the initial ETB setup could be done automatically with just one routine/button ?
1. disable pedal position/PID
2. store the tps rest position
3. increase negative duty until tps adc stop counting, store min.
4. increase duty until tps stops counting, store max.
5. increase negative duty until it reaches 0%, store min duty.
6 increase duty until it reach 100%, store max duty.
Am I totally wrong, or what do you think?
This is pretty close to "Magic Spot Finder" from the recent video? Also I've just added "more" and "less" buttons for direct PWM drive.