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Very good idea for the slack team, you should create one. :)

EDIT: here you are:
registration http://rusefi.com/slack/
login https://rusefi.slack.com/

HOWTO https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/HOWTO_join_slack_channel
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I guess I am officially old now? How is https://bryanhadaway.com/how-to-create-a-slack-chat-community-with-auto-invites/ the way to share Slack channel? Can someone please explain why is this the way to make a channel public? Why the hassle with "auto-invite" with deploying some random app to some random container?
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xtr0d3m0n wrote:@russ the invite is its in the left menu thing...
http://rusefi.com/slack/ is a self-invite thing. Just checked it worked for me.
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In the recent month https://rusefi.slack.com/ has really taken off - we are now getting towards 10K messages there.
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On the other hand, we will now be loosing history since we are on the Free plan and there is no way on Earth we are paying https://rusefi.slack.com/plans

Also fun dramatic reads
https://dave.cheney.net/2017/04/11/why-slack-is-inappropriate-for-open-source-communications
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11013136
https://opensource.com/alternatives/slack
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Reminder that some cool things are happening on the Slack channel. For example, documentation strategy is being discussed at https://rusefi.slack.com/messages/CF8NQ1RU6/
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https://www.irccloud.com/ if we ever get tired of the 10K messages limitation :)
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mobyfab wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:55 am
Very good idea for the slack team, you should create one. :)
A major issue with Slack is the fact that free accounts are limited to 10,000 messages which means content is automatically purged.

We do not follow the discipline of documenting stuff on the forum, thus we have a ghost town on the forum and no institutional memory whatsoever. Myself I have very poor memory and I need structured notes - thus I need the forum.

I am afraid that we got addicted to Slack and while that amazing tool gave us a lot it has also taken a lot from us.

PS: kind of relevant also https://www.quora.com/Has-social-media-like-Facebook-killed-online-forums
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There are some good alternatives such as rocket.chat, which can be (free/paid) SaaS or self-hosted.

Data can be imported: https://rocket.chat/docs/administrator-guides/import/slack/
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This needs preservation, it was posted in slack.
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Slack really _really_ REALLY wants some $$$ :(
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Any video we attach to slack is on the one hand not available to see in about 20 days while still going towards out space usage! Thus sometimes we really get the "no more space" message.

Thus I am now manually purging videos using https://slackdeletron.com/ as described by https://www.guidingtech.com/bulk-delete-slack-files-free-space/ now
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I think it would do everyone some good to just go ahead and completely delete slack now rather than waiting for it do do it on it's own later, or wait for some glorious benefactor...

Or can we code something that pushes every slack message to an archive forum here automatically, so we aren't at least loosing text? Maybe slack archive forum, with subforums for each group?
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Slack free plan gives us limited storage. When we use the storage, no more attachments are possible.

At the moment I am manually using https://slackdeletron.com/ to purge videos since videos are the ones eating slack free plan quote. Please consider using youtube or remove your own videos. Or at least be aware that each attached video is be using https://slackdeletron.com/ more often.

The fact that slack has API tells us that achieve be possible but not something I would have time to look into :(
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@AndreyB asked me to post here from our slack discussion about alternatives...

I've done some digging, and it's a bummer that once used to be opensource chat software like https://rocket.chat/pricing/?gclid=undefined & https://mattermost.com/pricing-self-managed/ decided to start charging for the features people want..

There is Gitter which is nice, but just not as known. It's also cloud hosted and supposedly "Lifetime archiving" you could also self host it as well.

https://gitter.im/

Then there is discord.. data partially controlled by tencent, however easy to use, can do easy desktop sharing, good chat features, private rooms, etc.

In order of preference personally I'd think about:
  • Staying on Slack, and finding a solution to archive messages
  • Trying out Gitter.im
  • Trying out Discord
  • Trying out Rocket.chat
  • Trying out Mattermost
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cookiesowns wrote:
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  • Staying on Slack, and finding a solution to archive messages
rusEFI slack is quick and noisy form of communication I am not convinced that it's worth archiving - it would be a nightmare to navigate anyway. For long-term data we have to be using wiki mostly, and some forum.
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AndreyB wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:40 pm
rusEFI slack is quick and noisy form of communication I am not convinced that it's worth archiving
See also https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Knowledge-best-practices-and-Channels

Probably an obvious observation but rusEFI Slack has turned into social space of rusEFI in the negative Facebook meaing of the social space - the social live collaboration has replaced documentation and strategic knowledge value add. My personal passion to create a widely used piece of technology and to persist the relevant body of knowledge for wider audience does not align with the loosly structured flow of group chat.

To be honest I would have turned rusEFI slack off if it was not the amazing support tool.
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