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Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:02 am
by Lyonz
Hello,
My name is Lyonnel, i'm french ... I live in Guadeloupe, a French island in Central America.
I'm glad to enter the world of rusEfi to work on something other than ms.
I already have 3 cars that I had to install in microsquirt but with what I saw of these projects, I would install rusEfi ;)
Lyonnel

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:22 am
by AndreyB
Welcome to rusEfi :)

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:43 am
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:22 am
Welcome to rusEfi :)
Thanks a lot ;)

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:31 pm
by kb1gtt
Welcome along.

Have you found the wiki? Just in case you have not, here's a link you might find interesting.
https://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Hardware_Frankenso_board

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:02 pm
by Lyonz
kb1gtt wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:31 pm
Welcome along.

Have you found the wiki? Just in case you have not, here's a link you might find interesting.
https://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Hardware_Frankenso_board
Yes of course...
I'm going to buy 3 Frankenso (1 for Peugeot 1.6 8s turbo & the others for Peugeot 1.6 16s turbo dragrace) for 2 friends, and a Frankenstein for me.
I already have an ms3x but I want to use some functions that I like (ETB, and other I/O) and the speed of the μP. For my car Audi A4 b5 quattro with engine vw r32 turbo BW s476sx.
If I didn't already have a ms3x I would have made a 100% Frankenso project.
I did not know but I am blue because of its speed against the ms3 μP

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:38 pm
by AndreyB
Lyonz wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:02 pm
Frankenstein for me.
But why? :)

Are you looking to get assembled or kits?

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:13 pm
by kb1gtt
Is that a 2.0T with the direct injection an drive by wire?

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:33 pm
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:38 pm
Lyonz wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:02 pm
Frankenstein for me.
But why? :)

For drive by wire and more

Are you looking to get assembled or kits?
Kits

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:36 pm
by AndreyB
Leaving country for 10 days in Monday morning so you want to order now or wait two weeks :)

Why Frankenstein and not Frankenso?

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:36 pm
by Lyonz
kb1gtt wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:13 pm
Is that a 2.0T with the direct injection an drive by wire?
It's a vr6 3.2L 24v with BW turbocharger s476sx 76mm ID with drive by wire 90mm from Audi S4 v8 engine

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:40 pm
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:36 pm
Leaving country for 10 days in Monday morning so you want to order now or wait two weeks :)

Why Frankenstein and not Frankenso?
Just for DBW & to try other fonctions, and try the implementation via can bus & ms3x

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:44 pm
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:36 pm
Leaving country for 10 days in Monday morning so you want to order now or wait two weeks :)

Why Frankenstein and not Frankenso?
For now i'm ready to buy these kits from you
Can't wait 2 weeks. My friend have his dragrace soon

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:47 pm
by AndreyB
https://www.tindie.com/products/russian/frankenso-diy-kit/

PS: if in doubt of SMD soldering, including fine-pitch SMD soldering, I strongly recommend considering fully assembled boards. Over 75% of kits are never assembled.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:00 pm
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:47 pm
https://www.tindie.com/products/russian/frankenso-diy-kit/

PS: if in doubt of SMD soldering, including fine-pitch SMD soldering, I strongly recommend considering fully assembled boards. Over 75% of kits are never assembled.
I understand.
But when I go soldering it's easier for me to immerse myself in the circuits and the operation. Although I understand that it's more complicated.
I will choose the kit

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:21 pm
by AndreyB
What is your plan for connecting the board to harness - are you soldering wires to the board or do you have VW ECU side connector? How many pins on the VW connector?

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:50 pm
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:21 pm
What is your plan for connecting the board to harness - are you soldering wires to the board or do you have VW ECU side connector? How many pins on the VW connector?
I will use oem ecu box...
No need to buy connectors for the moment
Wire to pin

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:57 am
by Abricos
VW... oem ecu box ... is to small ...
Pic of your ecu ...

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:28 am
by kb1gtt
There are also connector boards similar to this. Would a ECU harness connector breakout board be of use?
https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1303&p=27823

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:44 am
by Lyonz
kb1gtt wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:28 am
There are also connector boards similar to this. Would a ECU harness connector breakout board be of use?
https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1303&p=27823
Perhaps... let me check.
But really nice looks good.
Thanks

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:46 am
by Lyonz
Who have experience with vw vr6 24v engine with vvt?

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:38 pm
by Abricos
what kind of experience are you talking about ???

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:12 pm
by Lyonz
Abricos wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:38 pm
what kind of experience are you talking about ???
Exprerience with vvt tuning his settings (solenoid frequency, PID, etc...).
Possible to exchange datas between ms3x & ruefi via canbus (sorry for this question)

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:21 am
by AndreyB
Lyonz wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:05 pm
One question, I would like to know if LC & NLS work?
No launch control, not sure what NLS is is. I am a road racer myself so my own focus is on that.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:58 am
by Lyonz
russian wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 11:21 am
Lyonz wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:05 pm
One question, I would like to know if LC & NLS work?
No launch control, not sure what NLS is is. I am a road racer myself so my own focus is on that.
Hello
It's a shame for me.
On track I can understand that the LC is not so useful.
But the NLS (no lift shift) would be more than useful.
For me and the use dragrace it's complicated

By the way, I received the kit. Thank you everything is nice.
By cons it's difficult to mount and some values of components that are not completely identical to the list on your site. But I will get there.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 12:00 pm
by AndreyB
Lyonz wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 3:58 am
On track I can understand that the LC is not so useful.
But the NLS (no lift shift) would be more than useful.
For me and the use dragrace it's complicated
Can you start a new thread for no lift shift? How would it know that I am shifting on the track? Excuse my lack of knowledge.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 1:49 am
by mck1117
russian wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 12:00 pm
Can you start a new thread for no lift shift? How would it know that I am shifting on the track? Excuse my lack of knowledge.
The tl;dr is that when the clutch pedal goes in, the ECU cuts fuel/spark so you don't have to lift off the accelerator. Then, when you're off the clutch again it brings them back after a short delay, and optionally by sweeping in the timing so as to not shock the driveline too hard. The point is that airflow is maintained through the engine during the shift, so that your turbo stays spooled a little better, you don't have to wait on acceleration enrichment, etc.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:03 am
by kb1gtt
From my reading, I see it like this. When clutch switch is activated, the soft rev limiter which might normally be something like 7 kRPM get's changed to something like 5.5kRPM. The soft rev limiter typically alters fuel and / or spark to limit HP. If the hard limiter is reached, fuel is turned off completely. By changing the soft rev limiter, you minimize shock, and allow the syncro gears (or what ever gears you have) to do their thing.

Would I be correct is understanding that there is a delay after the clutch is de-activated such that the 5.5 kRPM rev limit is maintained for something like a second or two? I could see how if you miss a gear you do not want to over rev.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:30 am
by AndreyB
We keep discussing in a wrong thread - this information would be impossible to find later.

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:41 am
by kb1gtt
NLS conversation migrated to here https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1373

Re: Hello from Guadeloupe (French island in Central America area)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:31 pm
by AndreyB
Any updates? how many cars run rusEfi with what issues or lack of issues?