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Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:02 pm
by ahiles008
Hi, my name is Vadim, I'm from Russia.
I am building a replica Lamborghini Murcielago.
Now I have a Mercedes m120 w140 6.0 engine with standard wiring installed.
There are a lot of extra blocks and wires, I would like to do everything beautifully and to a minimum.
Maybe I want to put Rusefi Proteus 0.4. and remove all unnecessary Mercedes parts.

I would be glad if they help me figure it out and give me advice.

Attaching photo.

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:11 pm
by AndreyB
Do you have wiring diagrams for this engine and whole car?

I had a very similar huge pile when I got my bmw m73 v12 but I was able to remove 80% and still use OEM ecu. I think you would be able to remove 80% and keep engine happy

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:14 pm
by ahiles008
AndreyB wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:11 pm
Do you have wiring diagrams for this engine and whole car?

I had a very similar huge pile when I got my bmw m73 v12 but I was able to remove 80% and still use OEM ecu. I think you would be able to remove 80% and keep engine happy
I have no diagrams, we deleted a lot of things, but the motor is very complex, I'm afraid it won't work correctly

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:26 pm
by AndreyB
I believe this is a very simple engine but without diagrams you are blind. in my opinion you should start by finding those diagrams to know what you are looking at.

what year is donor vehicle? what exact cat was the donor?

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:31 pm
by ahiles008
AndreyB wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:26 pm
I believe this is a very simple engine but without diagrams you are blind. in my opinion you should start by finding those diagrams to know what you are looking at.

what year is donor vehicle? what exact cat was the donor?
the s600 car is 94 years old, I do not understand well in electrics, but for example everything works, there are no errors on the motor

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:35 pm
by AndreyB
where in Russia are you exactly? you need an electronics guy to move this forward one way or another

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:41 pm
by ahiles008
AndreyB wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:35 pm
where in Russia are you exactly? you need an electronics guy to move this forward one way or another
they don’t fumble, in these old cars we have, Russia
unless, of course, you cut out all the extra wiring, from abs, tidy and other things, it will be more compact

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:27 pm
by mck1117
do I see VVT? I think I see vvt.

after some searching: yes, it's quad cam, and has independent intake VVT on both cams

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:34 pm
by AndreyB
where in Russia are you exactly? Are you in Moscow?

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:27 pm
by AndreyB
I found some wiring diagrams and made those available at https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi_documentation/tree/master/oem_docs/Mercedes/M120

You need someone local who would be comfortable reading those diagrams, I am sure that you still have 5 kilograms of wires to remove.

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:12 am
by ahiles008
AndreyB wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:34 pm
where in Russia are you exactly? Are you in Moscow?
Moscow

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:12 am
by ahiles008
mck1117 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:27 pm
do I see VVT? I think I see vvt.

after some searching: yes, it's quad cam, and has independent intake VVT on both cams
VVT As I understand it, they are standing at the intake, right?

Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:37 pm
by md_sanci
Vvt lools like the m111, it is a solenoid on the intake cam

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Re: Replica Lamborghini Murcielago, Mercedes m120 w140 6.0

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:06 pm
by AndreyB
@puff are you available to help?

Vadim, you need someone who understands wiring diagrams.