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mck1117 wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:29 pm
STURX8 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:13 am
Do I run it as a 2-cylinder 2 stroke or 4 cylinder 2 stroke
It should run properly as a 1.3 liter, 2-cyl, 2 stroke.
I sent the tune or posted the tune
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Just need someone now to reset the RPM count I guess it's showing double that's one problem so far
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https://rusefi.com/online/view.php?msq=571&dialog=triggerConfiguration looks like I would expect it to look

Is the RPM still wrong? I can see how the RPMs are doubled or quadrupled, i.e. multiplied or divided.

Can you please paste a screen shot of engine sniffer like https://rusefi.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5246 for example? that's from rusEFI console not TunerStudio.
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"Is the RPM still wrong? I can see how the RPMs are doubled or quadrupled, i.e. multiplied or divided"

We need to divide it
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Can you please paste a screen shot of engine sniffer like https://rusefi.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5246 for example? that's from rusEFI console not TunerStudio.

At the moment my focus is still on validating where exactly is the issue if it's in the software.
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AndreyB wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:57 pm
https://rusefi.com/online/view.php?msq=571&dialog=triggerConfiguration looks like I would expect it to look

Is the RPM still wrong? I can see how the RPMs are doubled or quadrupled, i.e. multiplied or divided.

Can you please paste a screen shot of engine sniffer like https://rusefi.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5246 for example? that's from rusEFI console not TunerStudio.
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Unfortunately I would not be able to contribute here. I am failing to effectively extract actionable signal from the hints you are posting here.
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I have no idea what this screen shot means. I have no idea how you got to that screen shot, I have no idea how to reproduce the issue or what it is about.
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Think he is confused on the RusEFI console. This should help https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Console
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It won't connect to that console thing properly
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please try www.getsharex.com or else to record screen video
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AndreyB wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:12 pm
I have no idea what this screen shot means. I have no idea how you got to that screen shot, I have no idea how to reproduce the issue or what it is about.
That screenshot was from basically when you connect to the ECU ... it keep asking for the correct ECU definition... was wondering if you have the updated definition for the ECU... I don't know it's a incorrect ECU definition will cause that are r.p.m. to show excessively higher than usual
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No, this would not affect the RPM.

When you connect your microRusEFI to PC does it give you a driver with rusefi.ini.zip? that's the file to uncompress to create matching project.

If you do not get that drive please update firmware using https://rusefi.com/s/microrusefi release link - same software bundle contains both fresh binary and project .ini file

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Zach are you saying you know OEM connector part number? Is that something we can document at https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/OEM-connectors?
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AndreyB wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:55 am
Zach are you saying you know OEM connector part number? Is that something we can document at https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/OEM-connectors?
Haven't physically verified but I'm pretty confident that this is the factory connector

https://www.te.com/usa-en/product-8-5353015-1.html
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Also it doesn't transmit back to the dash also ... on the RX8 setting (CAN) that would be great if I could wake up the electric steering also :D
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AndreyB wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:28 am
Edited wiki https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/OEM-connectors#122

Funny thing I have https://www.ebay.com/itm/334058887716 for sale
Still trying to figure out could get the console working it's connecting and reconnecting every 2 seconds don't know what's going on or maybe I don't know what the hell I'm doing hahaha but still trying to get you that screenshot
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STURX8 wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:14 pm
Still trying to figure out could get the console
All I know is that I am trying to help but on average you seem not interested (edit: not interested to leverage my experience of how we can make this dialog more productive). I am trying to point you at the tools to make this more efficient but your call which route to take.
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AndreyB wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:10 pm
please try www.getsharex.com or else to record screen video
Until we see what you click and how software responds we are relying on telepathy. Relying on telepathy does not seem to work for us so far.
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Translating from Andreyish (which is an unusual blend of jumble, english and russian):

-You have been told to do certain specific things (use a certain bundle, use the ini retrieved from the rusefi controller to configure TunerStudio, take a screen capture showing sequence of events leading up to problem, ...)
-You do not seem to be providing responses and replies that make it clear EXACTLY what you are doing, whether you have already followed existing instructions and which particular step of the process is causing issues.

If I were you, I'd follow the steps you've been advised to do EXACTLY. If you run into trouble, use ALL OF YOUR WORDS to describe what you were attempting. You have a great community of very smart and helpful people here that get very frustrated when they can't follow along with what you are doing well enough to help you effectively.
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-You have been told to do certain specific things (use a certain bundle, use the ini retrieved from the rusefi controller to configure TunerStudio, take a screen capture showing sequence of events leading up to problem, ...)

I wasn't told to use a certain bundle... so if you could send me that specific file that would be great because everything on your software page doesn't seem to work properly
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AndreyB wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:23 pm
If you do not get that drive please update firmware using https://rusefi.com/s/microrusefi release link - same software bundle contains both fresh binary and project .ini file
Our instructions suck :(
STURX8 wrote:
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take a screen capture showing sequence of events leading up to problem

everything on your software page doesn't seem to work properly
What does "software page" mean? did you have a chance to click https://rusefi.com/s/microrusefi? What link did you click on https://rusefi.com/s/microrusefi to get release software?

What does "doesn't seem to work properly" mean?

How do you understand the phrase "take a screen capture showing sequence of events leading up to problem"?
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Okay I fix the ECU definition problem... ini files...
I am still working on the screenshot with the rusefi console
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I am sending you the RX-8 trigger wheel firing pattern this might give you a heads up of how it works
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Also if you have any ideas how to have the trailing coils work that would be fantastic so I could get that going I have a race coming up in 8 more days I am trying to make it
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Matt is making progress https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/pull/2932

For a prototype we will probably have fixed angle offset between primary and trailing coil. What kind of control strategy are you looking for trailing coil? Fixed angle? Curve? 4x4 table? Else?
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AndreyB wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:53 am
Matt is making progress https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/pull/2932

For a prototype we will probably have fixed angle offset between primary and trailing coil. What kind of control strategy are you looking for trailing coil? Fixed angle? Curve? 4x4 table? Else?
Probably needs a little table. 4x4 or 6x6 is likely more than plenty. Doesn't need much precision either.
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STURX8 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:37 pm
Also if you have any ideas how to have the trailing coils work that would be fantastic so I could get that going I have a race coming up in 8 more days I am trying to make it
how did the race go?
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