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W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:00 pm
by duhafnusa4
Hi its me again. Doing more rusefi stuff on another W124. This time a wagon.
Its getting a 5 speed swap and with that the new flywheel is 60/2, so why not install a proteus and have a party?
Engine is staying stock for now, using oem sensors (ill add part #s later). But heres the specs:
1994 E320 Wagon
3.2 M104 (DOHC inline 6, VVT intake cam)
5 Speed Manual 717.412 with single mass flywheel
Proteus using stock wasted coils (has 3 piggies), injectors, iat, map, with AEM wideband
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 3:12 pm
by duhafnusa4
Throttle body is going to be interesting. The cable goes to it, but if I researched correctly, it only triggers the PPS that is inside the throttle. The actual throttle movement is electrically controlled.
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What a PITA.
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 3:34 pm
by duhafnusa4
MAP:
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 9:00 pm
by duhafnusa4
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:32 pm
by duhafnusa4
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:40 pm
by duhafnusa4
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:50 pm
by duhafnusa4
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:32 pm
by augenblick
How K R E A T I V do you want to get? Swapping your TB to a 96+ TB which is fully DBW would only require the TB swap and adding in the pedal position sensor from a W202 or W210.
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 7:30 pm
by duhafnusa4
augenblick wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 6:32 pm
How K R E A T I V do you want to get? Swapping your TB to a 96+ TB which is fully DBW would only require the TB swap and adding in the pedal position sensor from a W202 or W210.
Im using a pedal position sensor from a W163 ML320. Its nice because it mounts in the engine bay and the stock throttle cable will connect to it (with a different end added). Minimal fabrication and no physical pedal change needed.
As far as throttle im looking at a 96+ like you states or a bosch motorsports one. Fun fact the GM v6 etb bolt pattern shares 2 bolt holes with the M104, 2 are misaligned. I could make an adapter...
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:55 pm
by augenblick
I'm seeing conflicting information about TB bore size, and I can't seem to find my micrometer, but hasty tape measuring showed a 01 M113 4.3 TB bore to be about the same size as a 94 E320, somewhere in the ballpark of 70-75 mm. You'd either need a spacer plate or some modding to get clearance, but other than that, it looks like it might fit.
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:47 pm
by duhafnusa4
augenblick wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 4:55 pm
I'm seeing conflicting information about TB bore size, and I can't seem to find my micrometer, but hasty tape measuring showed a 01 M113 4.3 TB bore to be about the same size as a 94 E320, somewhere in the ballpark of 70-75 mm. You'd either need a spacer plate or some modding to get clearance, but other than that, it looks like it might fit.
yeah i need to get one and check fitment. Otherwise Im going to buy a bosch motorsports 68mm.
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:43 pm
by duhafnusa4
ended up ordering the Bosch Motorsports 82mm throttle (0280.750.101)
Itll fit with a bit of love LOL.
Also found this nice bosch spec sheet.
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:05 pm
by duhafnusa4
IAT, CLT sensors working!
Intake manifold flap working!
Fuel injectors working!
Going coil on plug with Bremi 06E905115FKT6 (audi "R8" style)
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:24 pm
by duhafnusa4
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:33 pm
by duhafnusa4
Adapting the 82 mm bosch ETB (getting this cut out of alum, printed for fitment).
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Intake manifold flapper for low/high speed torque and hp stuffs. Its just a pwm solenoid with a vacuum chamber.
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Got rid of the dummy stock coils and went VAG coil on plug. Initial will be individually wired wasted, then sequential later.
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Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 9:25 pm
by duhafnusa4
found this for HFM mercedes! entire sensor values list! THIS IS GOLD
http://manual.startekinfo.com/manual/JSP/e2/1_1/m23.jsp#8.1
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:16 pm
by duhafnusa4
First Start attempt on the proteus worked! Still waiting on wideband controller, and probably has some vacuum leaks, but it runs and idles
Ill take a video once the wideband controller comes in and such. but good things! Tune and log are on REO
Re: W124 E320 Wagon M104 [Proteus]
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:55 pm
by duhafnusa4