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SF is a bad source of pre-compiled stuff, current console is on the build server samé as firmware
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PC10, PC11Usb connect to TS OK,
FrankenUsb cann't connect TS.
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I am still at the race but I should be back online this evening.

As far as I know, FRK USB is totally fine. Please check your soldering? The issue I usually had was soldering on the USB connector, to test it I've cut a USB cable so that I can check continuity from black-red-green-white wires to the board.
As far as I remember two capacitors on the D lines were enough to get usb running.

What does Putty show if you connect to FrkUSB? What speed are you using for console connection? Try with PB1 and see if DevConsole would be showing @ putty?

By the way: http://hackaday.com/2014/02/19/ft232rl-real-or-fake/
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russian wrote:I am still at the race but I should be back online this evening.

As far as I know, FRK USB is totally fine. Please check your soldering? The issue I usually had was soldering on the USB connector, to test it I've cut a USB cable so that I can check continuity from black-red-green-white wires to the board.
As far as I remember two capacitors on the D lines were enough to get usb running.

What does Putty show if you connect to FrkUSB? What speed are you using for console connection? Try with PB1 and see if DevConsole would be showing @ putty?

By the way: http://hackaday.com/2014/02/19/ft232rl-real-or-fake/

Hi rusEFI and KB1GTT,
Regarding to FT232RL of FRK.
I was wiring follow the schematic mmc_usb_1.sch update on 14 Jul 2014, below.
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At the PC it can detected the usb COM PORT like this image is COM14.
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I can update FT232RL firmware.
but I can't connect to the FRK via putty or Devconsole.

for buad rate 115200 like...
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result is
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for buad rate 38400 like...
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result is
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FT232RL chipset is Real, followed this link.
http://hackaday.com/2014/02/19/ft232rl-real-or-fake/

Maybe I should be change the FT232RL chip set solder on the FRK.

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TS does not write data till you send a command - you need to type letter t in putty.

If you use pb1 jumper to switch ttl port to devconsole it would write data by itself, try that.

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I've just fixed the "error after TS burn" bug, please update to latest firmware (20140811)

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I've just realized you are using an unofficial version of FRK board, I wonder if your pre-0.1 version of the board has inherited the issue from communication module rev 0.1.

Let's check?

It should be like this:
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So, does your PC10 go to FT232 pin #1 or #5? Should go to FT232#5. If it does go to FT232#1 that would mean you've got a FRK version prior to the fix of this defect. In this case you would need to cut a USB cable and cross-wire green to white and white to green to work around this defect on the board.
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russian wrote:I've just fixed the "error after TS burn" bug, please update to latest firmware (20140811)

Also some TS improvements - please create a new project using latest rusefi.ini


Hi rusEFI,

I was test the latest firmware (20140811), But the some GPIO like PC3,4,5.. disappear in the list of TS like below image.

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Please verify the configuration.
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Tambralinga wrote:I was test the latest firmware (20140811), But the some GPIO like PC3,4,5.. disappear in the list of TS like below image.
You are looking at ADC input pins, not any GPIO pins - so it is NOT a bug that PC3 is not there. There are only 16 pins which we can use for analog input.

What was a bug was that 16,17,18..31 was there - this I have just fixed. Thank you for reporting the issue!
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russian wrote:
Tambralinga wrote:I was test the latest firmware (20140811), But the some GPIO like PC3,4,5.. disappear in the list of TS like below image.
You are looking at ADC input pins, not any GPIO pins - so it is NOT a bug that PC3 is not there. There are only 16 pins which we can use for analog input.

What was a bug was that 16,17,18..31 was there - this I have just fixed. Thank you for reporting the issue!

Hi rusEFI,

I have been verified the CLT,
1. Set jumper for PC6 to PD1 (CAM) and PA5 to PD2 (CKP).
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2. Opent Dev console via USB TTL and test sensors in dev console in command "analoginfo" and "tempinfo", the results like below...
"analoginfo"
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"tempinfo"
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3. Re-check a result with TS.
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It look good but I'm not sure it is the right way to testing.

Question : The rpm have a relation with CLT. If I take hot air for add temperature to CLT sensor, It peak at 70°C and sometime at -40°C but I don't see "snow". Maybe we going to adjust the RPM for relative to CLT, Because now it stay on 1200 rpm.

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This looks weird - the '(null)' part of it. At what point do you get (null) in the header?

So let's reset to default configuration - GND<>PD6, with default configuration you have you would have 'Ford Aspire' in the title.
Then you change it to your presets with 'set_engine_type 16', once you do that you get Mitsu in the title.
After you reset to defaults or change engine preset you want a new TS project so that TS does now override the configuration.

How did you get the (null) in the window title? That's strange. I am tempted to throw out a red LED in case of (null)...
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russian wrote:
Tambralinga wrote:I was test the latest firmware (20140811), But the some GPIO like PC3,4,5.. disappear in the list of TS like below image.
You are looking at ADC input pins, not any GPIO pins - so it is NOT a bug that PC3 is not there. There are only 16 pins which we can use for analog input.

What was a bug was that 16,17,18..31 was there - this I have just fixed. Thank you for reporting the issue!

I'm not sure for "Null" at the title name.
but now I'm reset it by PD6 <> GND
Let you see the image.
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I had change new one Coolant Temperature for original part - MD-182467.

It have spec like below.

Temperature Range: 25 °C Resistance: 2080 Ohm
Temperature Range: 80 °C Resistance: 294 Ohm

http://www.rexbo.eu/hella/coolant-temperature-sensor-6pt009107121?c=100334&at=3130


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These values are common, technically we need three points so I would assume 18KOhm @ -20C
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russian wrote:These values are common, technically we need three points so I would assume 18KOhm @ -20C

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As for analog stuff, MAP would go as "general analog n/a 500K", same as TPS
MAF - that's a different story, depends on what is your MAF sensor output if you have a MAF sensor
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Today we test the TPS INP2 can not use it, but can use it in other input.
I do not mind what happens Agent.

INP2 throttle position sensor n/a pull-up,500K pull-down (adc3 PA3)

http://www.evotuners.net/forums/f23/throttle-positon-sensor-adjustment-662/

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What do analoginfo and tpsinfo show with pedal ON and pedal OFF?
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russian wrote:What do analoginfo and tpsinfo show with pedal ON and pedal OFF?
TPSINFO OFF

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2014-08-15 14_48: EngineState: FAN relay: OFF
2014-08-15 14_48: CommandQueue: Sending [sec!7!tpsinfo]
2014-08-15 14_48: EngineState: confirmation_tpsinfo:7
2014-08-15 14_48: EngineState: tps min 193/max 704 v=4.46593 @PC4
2014-08-15 14_48: EngineState: current 10bit=762 value=100.00000 rate=0.00000
2014-08-15 14_48: CommandQueue: got valid conf! tpsinfo
2014-08-15 14_48: EngineState: FAN relay: ON
TPSINFO ON

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2014-08-15 20_17: EngineState: confirmation_tpsinfo:7
2014-08-15 20_17: EngineState: tps min 193/max 704 v=4.42051 @PC4
2014-08-15 20_17: EngineState: current 10bit=754 value=100.00000 rate=0.00000
2014-08-15 20_17: CommandQueue: got valid conf! tpsinfo
ANALOGINFO OFF

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2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: confirmation_analoginfo:10
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.21465/divided=4.42930v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: CLT ADC6 PA6 rawValue=2.27399/divided=4.54798v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: IAT ADC7 PA7 rawValue=2.16190/divided=4.32380v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: MAF ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.21465/divided=4.42930v
2014-08-15 14_53: CommandQueue: got valid conf! analoginfo
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: AFR ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.21465/divided=4.42930v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: MAP ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.21465/divided=4.42930v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: BARO ADC4 PA4 rawValue=2.24395/divided=4.48791v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: Vbatt ADC5 PA5 rawValue=11.81143/divided=23.62286v
2014-08-15 14_53: EngineState: FAN relay: ON

ANALOGINFO ON

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2014-08-15 20_20: CommandQueue: Sending [sec!10!analoginfo]
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: confirmation_analoginfo:10
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.21245/divided=4.42490v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: CLT ADC6 PA6 rawValue=2.26813/divided=4.53626v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: IAT ADC7 PA7 rawValue=2.22710/divided=4.45421v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: MAF ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.21245/divided=4.42490v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: AFR ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.21245/divided=4.42490v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: MAP ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.21245/divided=4.42490v
2014-08-15 20_20: CommandQueue: got valid conf! analoginfo
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: BARO ADC4 PA4 rawValue=2.19780/divided=4.39560v
2014-08-15 20_20: EngineState: Vbatt ADC5 PA5 rawValue=11.79971/divided=23.59942v
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I would need both analoginfo and tpsinfo with both pedal ON and pedal OFF :)
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analoginfo off

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2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: CLT ADC6 PA6 rawValue=2.31428/divided=4.62857v
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: IAT ADC7 PA7 rawValue=2.26813/divided=4.53626v
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: MAF ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v
2014-08-15 21_24: CommandQueue: got valid conf! analoginfo
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: AFR ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: MAP ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v
2014-08-15 21_24: CommandQueue: Took 2 attempts
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: BARO ADC4 PA4 rawValue=2.24395/divided=4.48791v
2014-08-15 21_24: EngineState: Vbatt ADC5 PA5 rawValue=12.00288/divided=24.00576v
analoginfo ON

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2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: confirmation_analoginfo:10
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: CLT ADC6 PA6 rawValue=2.31428/divided=4.62857v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: IAT ADC7 PA7 rawValue=2.27252/divided=4.54505v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: MAF ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v
2014-08-15 21_25: CommandQueue: got valid conf! analoginfo
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: AFR ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: MAP ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: BARO ADC4 PA4 rawValue=2.23956/divided=4.47912v
2014-08-15 21_25: EngineState: Vbatt ADC5 PA5 rawValue=12.03805/divided=24.07610v
TPSINFO off

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2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: confirmation_tpsinfo:7
2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: tps min 193/max 704 v=4.50989 @PC4
2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: current 10bit=769 value=100.00000 rate=0.00000
2014-08-15 21_23: CommandQueue: got valid conf! tpsinfo
TPSINFO on

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2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: confirmation_tpsinfo:7
2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: tps min 193/max 704 v=4.50695 @PC4
2014-08-15 21_23: EngineState: current 10bit=769 value=100.00000 rate=0.00000
2014-08-15 21_23: CommandQueue: got valid conf! tpsinfo
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pedal off?
TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v

pedal on?
TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v

Seems like pressing the pedal on the car does not change the voltage on the TPS wire? Check your wiring, the voltage should change if you press your pedal :)
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russian wrote:pedal off?
TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v

pedal on?
TPS ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v

Seems like pressing the pedal on the car does not change the voltage on the TPS wire? Check your wiring, the voltage should change if you press your pedal :)
TPS wire
pedal off = 0v
pedal on = 4.49v
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Not according to tpsinfo and analoginfo. Is it connected to the right input line? analoginfo should show different values for pedal on and pedal off and it does not now.
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russian wrote:Not according to tpsinfo and analoginfo. Is it connected to the right input line? analoginfo should show different values for pedal on and pedal off and it does not now.
Yes ,input line
PC4 input voltmeter 2.24 pedal off , 0.08 pedal on

INP1 = PC5 same symptoms INP2=PC4

Test TPS INP9 @ PA0 ,OK

pedal off

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2014-08-16 17_05: EngineState: TPS ADC0 PA0 rawValue=0.01611/divided=0.03223v
pedal on

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2014-08-16 17_05: EngineState: TPS ADC0 PA0 rawValue=2.25934/divided=4.51868v
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I need more information. Can you attach the full log file with this error? The log file I am looking for would contain 'FumberFormatException' in it.
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Or just update to latest version of dev console - I have added some details into the error messages.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92

Post by Tambralinga »

Ok,
I can use the map mpx4250 or not.
How to set up is required.

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