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vw 1.8t 20vt papillon electronique #60

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Good morning all
microrusefi test on a 1.8t 20vt vw motor
mounting with electric butterfly
if you have information i am interested
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thank you for your reponce i almost finished the pnp adapter
the electric butterfly has been tested on the operating table well after calibration
I'm on a problem because the engine setup is to start the race is I need to be able to activate the lunch control
I can select in studio tuners I may not be which pin is used to activate this option
could you help me on this

I take a photo to share and pick up pin cabling for the PNP
once everything is stable I post the info for sharing on the community
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lunch control pin ?????
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RME-PERF wrote:
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lunch control pin ?????
There is no launch control in rusEFI at the moment :( See https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=871
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is it possible to add as we can see
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RME-PERF wrote:
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is it possible to add as we can see
Unfortunately that's a low priority. You would either need to dump money at the problem or develop it yourself :(
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money ????
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The issue is mostly developer time, we are very short of developer time and the only way at the moment to crate more developer time is for someone to directly hire a developer to assist.
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how much do you charge me for the modification
who is able to make this change
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RME-PERF wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 8:05 pm
is it possible to add as we can see
https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1642
$90 per hour
It looks like there are different sides to launch control - depending on what exactly you are interested in being implemented it could be anywhere between 3 hours to 10 hours to have the firmware change.
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what would be the exact price is the menu is already the setting that i need its already sufisans in these menu just the selection of pine between which is missing so tell me
the price just to have the functionality that is currently in the regalge
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what would be the exact price is the menu is already the setting that i need its already sufisans in these menu just the selection of pine between which is missing so tell me
the price just to have the functionality that is currently in the regalge
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https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/rusEFI-project-Controller#launch-control-settings-not-working has a lot of settings. It would take 10 hours at 90 USD per hour to get something I am comfortable passing to testing. I do not have a vehicle to test this on myself.
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The developer that was working on the 'launch control' has left the project so it would be safe to assume at this time that all of the settings presented in that menu are untested and potentially not functional.

What you intend to use the launch control for makes a large difference to the amount of work required to get it operational.

A simple Speed/RPM based launch control is relatively simple to implement.
A full system combined with antilag, transmission control and throttle modulation is much more difficult, requires hardware available to develop on and carried significant risk of engine damage.

At this time it would be my personal opinion that the first option is possible to implement, the second option is not realistic and it will be a long time before anything similar makes it into the main code.
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I just need to be able to limit the rpm
to a regime given simply by actuating a switch
no need for antilag or other just limit rpm with bang if possible to raise the turbo charge
I have on another assembly a speeduino their operation is sufisans the same thing will suit me
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I assume you mean a variable RPM limit based on speed.
So a 6x2 table giving RPM in one cell and a RPM limit in the second cell.

Very similar to the way it is done for the old motronics.

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Sweet, and cool to see. That's some good progress.
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I assume you mean a variable RPM limit based on speed.
So a 6x2 table giving RPM in one cell and a RPM limit in the second cell.

Very similar to the way it is done for the old motronics.

just need to be able to limit the engine to a speed adjustable by tunerstudio with as triggering just an off / on switch
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I think that can be done via the FSIO.

Let me ask about, we may be already able to do that.
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I am told it is possible to set a new rev limit based on an input being powered.

It might be best to start a quick thread asking how to set the rev limit using the FSIO.
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I've made a change today which would hopefully enable most trivial configurable rev limiter. It's a long story about https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/FSIO but please give it a try

1) you would need to wire a toggle switch
2) while you hold switch one rev limiter value would be used, once you release another value would be used. in the example one value is 2000 the other one is 7000 you can change
3) magic formula is

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0 fsio_analog_input 2 > 2000 7000 if
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PS: you get this crazy RPN formula by executing

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java -jar rusefi_console.jar compile_fsio_line "if(fsio_analog_input(0) > 2, 2000, 7000)"
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I have tested this FSIO formula out today on a discovery board and it seems to be working fine.
I will rig a temporary wire up on the E30 tomorrow and see if it is happy on a car.

To enable this set your TS as shown in Andrey's screen shots and use the formula below:

0 fsio_analog_input 2 > 2000 7000 if

Set the 2000 or 7000 to your desired switch on and off RPM limits.
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hello thank you to you i will test as soon as possible
I am on the adjustment of the management because problem has the acceleration of the sacade of all therefore it is necessary that I find the best adjustment because it is rollable
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Any updates? Are you still running rusEFI? If you can document how you have connected all the wires maybe we can make a Plug&Play adapter for MRE?
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