[rusEfi] 1995 Dodge Neon

What engine are you torturing? Is it inside some car?
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by Vanquizor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:02 am

So this is when one of you guys are supposed to say quit screwing the pooch and just start the damn thing...

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Maybe work on the tunerstudio stuff a bit tomorrow...


I think next step will be getting the TPS and MAP inputs so I can transfer this on to a vehicle.
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by sturovo » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:59 am

This is fantastic! Well done, seriously great :D

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by puff » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:55 am

haha! it works! congrats!

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by kb1gtt » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:57 am

Very nice, very nice.
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:30 am

OMG! You see, it just needed fuel!

Spark, spark... Who needs timing if there is no fuel? :)

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by Vanquizor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:39 pm

Feel free to copy and promote as you see fit.

I'm going to be tied up with work for the next 2 days but Thursday night I should be able to work on some other inputs to this machine.

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:44 pm

Vanquizor wrote:promote as you see fit.
Speaking of promotion, are you registered on any dodge/neon forums? If I would start a thread on one of them, would you be willing to comment? :)

Thank you a LOT for you effort so far. I know you've wasted plenty of hours on this bicycle reinvention, as you see your feedback has already made this better, and technically we are still nowhere with just running an engine solely on trigger signal. Just starting it obviously looks like 80% of effort, but the rest - all the sensors and smoothing out - would be there we would spend the next 80% of time :)
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by Vanquizor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:51 pm

Neons.org is probably your best bang for the buck... I am reasonably active and known there.

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:51 pm

I guess the next thing once we all sober up should be MAF sensor?
The 1st channel on your Frankenstein is set for a MAF I have on the Aspire: it's output is not resistance or voltage but current. So, in order to read the value there is a 1K pull-down resistor and for my MAF this gets a voltage in the right range.

Do you know anything about the way your MAF sensor reports data? Can you check resistance between MAF input wire and GND pins on a stock ECU? If there would a reasonable value there it could be that your MAF reports data the same way as mine.
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by Vanquizor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:13 pm

Neons are speed density, a holdover from the 80's when everything in chrysler's lineup came with a turbo. Suggest we focus on tps and temperature inputs.

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:24 pm

Looks like coolant parameters are already set according to http://www.rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... t=50#p4791 you just need to connect CLT to Frankenstein input #4

TPS - is it a regular kind of sensor returning some voltage between 0 and 5v? This case I need your 0% voltage and WOT voltage. Frankenstein channel 2.

VBatt is Frankenstein channel 5 - see
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:24 pm

Useful troubleshooting commands: tempinfo, tpsinfo
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by kb1gtt » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:32 am

I made a system schematic using Dia which is a program very similar to visio. It's multi platform ect. I like Dia for system schematics as it's fairly easy to use, it allows you to kind of connect colored wires, and it allows layers. This means someone else can take this schematic, hide a layer, re-draw a layer and make their own system schematic. Here is a picture of a draft copy of what it would/could produce.

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I need to connect things to the correct input pins and such, however it's a draft and a starting point.

Thoughts? Is this a worth while effort, are there better options?

Source files found here. [edit] https://sourceforge.net/p/daecu/code/HE ... chematics/ was originally found at this link http://code.google.com/p/daecu/source/b ... chematics/ [/edit]
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:14 am

The injector and especially the sparks are too small, barely visible. The rest is pretty cool :)
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Before we forget - can you please post your 'showconfig' so that I can put this into the default configuration? Quite often while updating you latest version configuration would be lost, so we want a valid default config.
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by erikmag » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:56 am

Can you run this engine without the camshaft sensor?

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by russian » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:02 am

erikmag wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:56 am
Can you run this engine without the camshaft sensor?
I think so
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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by erikmag » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:21 am

what trigger angle offset do you use

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Re: 1995 Dodge Neon

Post by erikmag » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:45 pm

what trigger angle use

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