[rusEfi] Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)

[AndreyB]

I can use the map mpx4250 or not.
How to set up is required.

That's easy - just update to latest firmware & latest TS project and you will have


You do not need MAP to run & idle the car. Really looking forward first run

[kb1gtt]

Do you need help with the physical setup?

Basically suggestion would be to connect MPX 5V pin to FRK 5V, connect MPX GND pin to FRK GND, and choose your AN channel for the output. If you install a 470pF on your AN channel, you will follow the datasheet suggestion more precisely and presumed more accurately. For example if you are on AN1, put 470pF on R211. Also recommended to keep shorter electrical wires and favor longer mechanical hose instead.

[Tambralinga]

I can use the map mpx4250 or not.
How to set up is required.

That's easy - just update to latest firmware & latest TS project and you will have


You do not need MAP to run & idle the car. Really looking forward first run

it works
I will add function Shift Light and vtec control.

[Tambralinga]

Do you need help with the physical setup?

Basically suggestion would be to connect MPX 5V pin to FRK 5V, connect MPX GND pin to FRK GND, and choose your AN channel for the output. If you install a 470pF on your AN channel, you will follow the datasheet suggestion more precisely and presumed more accurately. For example if you are on AN1, put 470pF on R211. Also recommended to keep shorter electrical wires and favor longer mechanical hose instead.

I can not use it in inp1 and inp2 and it may not work.

I do not understand what happened.

[AndreyB]

I can not use it in inp1 and inp2 and it may not work.
I do not understand what happened.

What does 'analoginfo' say? what exactly do you mean by "may not work"?

[Tambralinga]

We test the pull up, pull down remove pull up, remove pull down.
dev console (analoginfo) did not change, show 4.5V, pin PC4, PC5, the discovery show 1.65V by multimeter
We have to change the IC LMV324IDR is the same as the INP1 and INP2 only.

ADC15 PC5 rawValue=2.25054/divided=4.50109v
ADC14 PC4 rawValue=2.25714/divided=4.51428v

INP1=PC5
INP2=PC4
Test the sensor everything .
This will show up every time (dev console).

[AndreyB]

Have you tested the op-amp circuitry hardware & soldering? I'd suggest you remove the MAP and the discovery and apply GND, 3v and 5v to the inputs and check that the outputs show the expected values (0, 1.5 and 2.5)

I guess we need to put down some details of how to test the board with an op-amp somewhere close to http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Hardware_Test_Mode

[Tambralinga]

Have you tested the op-amp circuitry hardware & soldering? I'd suggest you remove the MAP and the discovery and apply GND, 3v and 5v to the inputs and check that the outputs show the expected values (0, 1.5 and 2.5)

I guess we need to put down some details of how to test the board with an op-amp somewhere close to http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Hardware_Test_Mode

no have PC4 , PC5 input pin with different Frankenso

[AndreyB]

Step #1: please check with a multimeter to be sure the hardware is fine

Step #2: I have just updated the firmware so that 'fast' ADC channels are also tested in hardware testing utility. Please update firmware and test again.

Please post your picture of


Do you have PC4 set to off, slow or fast?

[Tambralinga]

We have changed PC4,PC5 =fast in TS, but it will not change.
Every time a new connection is shown in Fig.
I just noticed.






I did not burn.

[AndreyB]

I've added this into Tuner Studio Q&A
http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Software:User/en#Tuner_Studio_integration

[Tambralinga]

I've added this into Tuner Studio Q&A
http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Software:User/en#Tuner_Studio_integration

I have tried to to stop the engine.
More than one time to be effective.
Sometimes it will return back to value default.

The tests burn have problem
I can not set PC4, PC5 to be tested.
If open test mode will return to value default immediately .
Need to have a battery backup?

[AndreyB]

I have just double-checked it and it seems to be working for me

I guess first thing we should do is disconnect the RPM signal. Since we are trying to check PC4 and make sure the settings get saved, just turn RPM signal off while testing this?

Please update to latest firmware and if you can write exact "steps to reproduce" I would love to try reproducing the problem...

[Tambralinga]

I have just double-checked it and it seems to be working for me

I guess first thing we should do is disconnect the RPM signal. Since we are trying to check PC4 and make sure the settings get saved, just turn RPM signal off while testing this?

Please update to latest firmware and if you can write exact "steps to reproduce" I would love to try reproducing the problem...

Ok
If not, disconnect the RPM signal mode does not work.
If I use PC4 PC5 set Slow "board input mode" to use it on INP1, INP2

Thank you,

[Tambralinga]

Lcd problem now is if set_engine_type16 LCD display 2 line.
If ford aspire LCD display 4 line.

[AndreyB]

I've changed default LCD size to 20x4 and also made LCD size configurable via Tuner Studio. Give the build server 5 minutes to build and use the new TS project

[Tambralinga]

I've changed default LCD size to 20x4 and also made LCD size configurable via Tuner Studio. Give the build server 5 minutes to build and use the new TS project

Ok
Now, it works.

[Tambralinga]

I have Innovate A/F meter can use analog signal output from meter?

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/MTX-L_print%201.2.pdf

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/quickstart/mtxlquickstart.pdf

This model have analog signal 2 output.

Optionally, the YELLOW (Analog out 1) and/or BROWN (Analog out 2)
can be connected to the analog inputs of other devices such as data
loggers or ECUs. If either one or both of these wires are not being used
isolate and tape the wire(s) out of the way. The default analog outputs
are as follows: Analog output one (yellow) is 0V = 7.35 AFR and 5V =
22.39 AFR. Analog output two (brown) is 1.1V = 14 AFR and .1V = 15
AFR.

[AndreyB]

I've just added the dialog into Tuner Studio project - please download latest version


Your older firmware has the code already no need to update firmware.

[Tambralinga]

I've just added the dialog into Tuner Studio project - please download latest version


Your older firmware has the code already no need to update firmware.

What setting input pin on board?
We chose not to input pin.

[AndreyB]

Ops, please take latest rusefi.ini one more time.

[Tambralinga]

I set fuel 40ms in picture dev console show 6.02 ms
Why is there no change?



Spark1 4.02 and 1.62ms It's normal, right?
I do not understand.

[AndreyB]

I see two questions here, let's solve them one by one. First let's solve the fuel pulse width:

What does your fuelinfo command tell you?

[Tambralinga]

I see two questions here, let's solve them one by one. First let's solve the fuel pulse width:

What does your fuelinfo command tell you?

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2014-09-04 21_20: CommandQueue: Sending [sec!8!fuelinfo]
2014-09-04 21_20: EngineState: confirmation_fuelinfo:8
2014-09-04 21_20: CommandQueue: got valid conf! fuelinfo
2014-09-04 21_20: EngineState: rpm=1400.00000 engineLoad=6.03290
2014-09-04 21_20: EngineState: baseFuel=6.00000
2014-09-04 21_20: EngineState: iatCorrection=1.00000 cltCorrection=1.00000 injectorLag=0.00000
2014-09-04 21_20: EngineState: injection pulse width: 6.00000

[AndreyB]

engineLoad=6.03290 is a bit unexpected, do you have 6 volts entering the sensor you are using for engine load? what does your analoginfo say?

On your TunerStudio it shows that you have 40 set for values under engine load 2.90, but you now have 6.

By the way what are we dealing with? Is this a simulator, a stimulator, a bench or a real car?

[Tambralinga]

engineLoad=6.03290 is a bit unexpected, do you have 6 volts entering the sensor you are using for engine load? what does your analoginfo say?

On your TunerStudio it shows that you have 40 set for values under engine load 2.90, but you now have 6.

By the way what are we dealing with? Is this a simulator, a stimulator, a bench or a real car?

I test TS by real car.

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2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: TPS ADC0 slow PA0 rawValue=0.96263/divided=1.92527v
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: CLT ADC6 slow PA6 rawValue=2.54065/divided=5.08131v
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: IAT ADC7 slow PA7 rawValue=0.45274/divided=0.90549v
2014-09-05 02_03: CommandQueue: got valid conf! analoginfo
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: MAF ADC0 slow PA0 rawValue=0.96263/divided=1.92527v
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: AFR ADC14 slow PC4 rawValue=2.50476/divided=5.00952v
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: MAP ADC0 slow PA0 rawValue=0.96263/divided=1.92527v
2014-09-05 02_03: EngineState: BARO ADC4 fast PA4 rawValue=2.50622/divided=5.01245v

[AndreyB]

Perfect, now I am completely confused. Your analoginfo does not show any 6 volts but you are saying your engine load is 6volts?

What is your current fuel algorithm setting? I have just updated the firmware, it now reports fuel algorithm in fuelinfo.

[Tambralinga]

Perfect, now I am completely confused. Your analoginfo does not show any 6 volts but you are saying your engine load is 6volts?

What is your current fuel algorithm setting? I have just updated the firmware, it now reports fuel algorithm in fuelinfo.

I ues fuel E85 now for test.

[AndreyB]

Please post your settings screen

[Tambralinga]