[rusEfi] Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
I only have a sensor crankshaft
I don't have a camshaft sensor (he is on engine but i don't use it) ...
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I am trying to help here. My question is if configuration got corrupted and I am looking for real latest logs and real latest tune. You are free to help me help you or not help me help you :)
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:14 am
I am trying to help here. My question is if configuration got corrupted and I am looking for real latest logs and real latest tune. You are free to help me help you or not help me help you :)
real latest logs is updated Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am

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Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am
the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
This is supposed to work funny since you do not have cam sensor but it's supposed to work. Do you want to try un-doing sequential back to simultaneous?
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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You have cranking coolant multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

You have cranking TPS multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

Please set both curves to "1" if you do not want to use those. Please set to something else if you want your cranking to depend on your CLT.
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russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:32 am
Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am
the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
This is supposed to work funny since you do not have cam sensor but it's supposed to work. Do you want to try un-doing sequential back to simultaneous?
I will check again simultaneous !!!

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russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:37 am
You have cranking coolant multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

You have cranking TPS multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

Please set both curves to "1" if you do not want to use those. Please set to something else if you want your cranking to depend on your CLT.
There is now a warning code for this case :)

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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YES
that was the problem
I had a zero there
I changed to one (see photo below )
it started working :mrgreen:
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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to use sequential do i need CAM sensor ?

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:51 am
to use sequential do i need CAM sensor ?
You can run sequential without a cam sensor. However, it may inject 360 degrees out of phase. There's a 50/50 chance of it being correct or "wrong". That said, I ran my engine for 5000mi/8000km without a cam sensor and it set to sequential, and I couldn't tell if it started in phase or out of phase.

tl;dr: you can safely set it to sequential

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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idle control ...
i have cable throttle body ...
but inside (throttle body) there is also electric motor ...
so 2 in one ETB and MTB ...
ETB is for idle control and Cruise control ...
what do you think how will it work ??

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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maybe anyone have extra time to see the date log
and maybe you see what improvements can be made
I am very interested how to tune Injection Phase ???
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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Abricos wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:16 pm
I am very interested how to tune Injection Phase ???
For engines like ours, injection phase doesn't really matter much. You will probably get slightly better emissions, cold start, and idle smoothness if you inject against a closed valve so the fuel vaporizes fully by the time the valve opens. I was unable to observe any difference on my car playing with the injection phase. The injection phase table indicates the END of injection, in degrees after top dead center. So -360 means that injection will finish just as the intake valve is opening. Set it to -400 and call it good.

So how do you tune it? You need an engine dyno, an ultra-expensive exhaust gas analyzer, and an unbelievable amount of time.

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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if you want to use your standard cable pedal ! BUT electronic throttle ...U need first
honda acura accelerator pedal position sensor
part number 37971-RCA-A01
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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Hi
So I added TLE7209-R3 H-brige ...
So I connect 12+ 5+ gnd
I connect Throttle position sensor


So I have questions ...
Where to connect H-brige board signal ?
And where to connect pedal TPS ?
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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backfire

if you have version frankenso 0.4 and below and if when you turn ON ignition key the coils fire ( backfire )
you need to add resistors to your TC4427 chips
TC4427 chips location
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you need to add a resistor between the legs TC4427 chips

leg2 (IN A) to 1K resistor to leg3 (gnd)
leg4 (IN B) to 1K resistor to leg3 (gnd)

as in the picture below
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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i tried to enable and configure idle and wastgate valve
but it didn't work
i used pin PA2 TPS (WORK)
pin PA3 Idle Valve Position
pin PA4 Wastegate Position
when I move them with my hands, there is no reaction in TS gauges (Position or Raw value)
any ideas?


2020-11-07_18_20_38_618: EngineState: 1604773237 - unix time
2020-11-07_18_20_38_618: EngineState: Current RTC localtime is: 2020-11-07 18:20:37 w=1
2020-11-07_18_20_44_276: EngineState: WARNING: unexpected MAP value: -1.64
2020-11-07_18_20_54_043: EngineState: confirmation_tempinfo:8
2020-11-07_18_20_54_053: EngineState: Sensor "CLT": Raw value: 2.29 Valid: Yes Converted value 22.69
2020-11-07_18_20_54_053: EngineState: 2.29 volts -> 2288.9 ohms with supply voltage 5.00 and pullup 2700.0.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_053: EngineState: 2288.9 ohms -> valid: Yes. 22.6 deg C
2020-11-07_18_20_54_063: EngineState: Sensor "IAT": Raw value: 2.28 Valid: Yes Converted value 22.87
2020-11-07_18_20_54_083: EngineState: 2.28 volts -> 2274.0 ohms with supply voltage 5.00 and pullup 2700.0.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_083: EngineState: 2274.0 ohms -> valid: Yes. 22.8 deg C
2020-11-07_18_20_54_083: EngineState: RPM sensor: stopped: 1 spinning up: 0 cranking: 0 running: 0 rpm: 0.000000000
2020-11-07_18_20_54_083: EngineState: Sensor "MAP" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_093: EngineState: Sensor "MAF" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_093: EngineState: Sensor "Oil Pressure" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_093: EngineState: Sensor "Fuel Pressure (LP)" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_093: EngineState: Sensor "Fuel Pressure (HP)" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_093: EngineState: Sensor "Fuel Pressure (injector)" proxied from sensor "Fuel Pressure (LP)"
2020-11-07_18_20_54_103: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 1" is redundant combining "TPS 1 Primary" and "TPS 1 Secondary"
2020-11-07_18_20_54_103: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 1 Primary": Raw value: 4.33 Valid: Yes Converted value 0.69
2020-11-07_18_20_54_103: EngineState: Linear function slope: -27.39 offset: 119.45 min: -10.0 max: 110.0
2020-11-07_18_20_54_103: EngineState: raw value 4.33 converts to 0.69 valid: Yes
2020-11-07_18_20_54_113: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 1 Secondary" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_113: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 2" is redundant combining "TPS 2 Primary" and "TPS 2 Secondary"
2020-11-07_18_20_54_113: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 2 Primary" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_113: EngineState: Sensor "TPS 2 Secondary" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Acc Pedal" is redundant combining "Acc Pedal Primary" and "Acc Pedal Secondary"
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Acc Pedal Primary" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Acc Pedal Secondary" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Driver Acc Intent" proxied from sensor "TPS 1"
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Aux Temp 1" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Aux Temp 2" is not configured.
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Wastegate Position": Raw value: 2.56 Valid: No Converted value 0.00
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Linear function slope: -598.80 offset: 107.18 min: -10.0 max: 110.0
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: raw value 2.56 converts to 0.00 valid: No
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Sensor "Idle Valve Position": Raw value: 5.03 Valid: No Converted value 0.00
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: Linear function slope: -6666.66 offset: 133.33 min: -10.0 max: 110.0
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: raw value 5.03 converts to 0.00 valid: No

2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: fan=No @ PE5
2020-11-07_18_20_54_123: EngineState: A/C relay=Yes @ NONE

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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

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I checked and make sure that my hardware is in working order....


And now I don't know what to do next.
maybe I don't understand how to activate waste gate and idle (DC motor ) to work...

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Functually everything seems fine with both sensors but usability was not great. I've added defaults and tool tips clarifying that 1 volt means 1000 units.
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Your settings at https://rusefi.com/online/view.php?msq=272&dialog=wastegateIdlePos were the issue, please start from "min 0 max 5000" which would mean "min 0 volts max 5 volts"
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