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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am
by Abricos
the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
I only have a sensor crankshaft
I don't have a camshaft sensor (he is on engine but i don't use it) ...
new date logs
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:14 am
by russian
I am trying to help here. My question is if configuration got corrupted and I am looking for real latest logs and real latest tune. You are free to help me help you or not help me help you :)

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:21 am
by Abricos
russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:14 am
I am trying to help here. My question is if configuration got corrupted and I am looking for real latest logs and real latest tune. You are free to help me help you or not help me help you :)
real latest logs is updated Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:32 am
by russian
Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am
the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
This is supposed to work funny since you do not have cam sensor but it's supposed to work. Do you want to try un-doing sequential back to simultaneous?

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:37 am
by russian
You have cranking coolant multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

You have cranking TPS multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

Please set both curves to "1" if you do not want to use those. Please set to something else if you want your cranking to depend on your CLT.

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:37 am
by Abricos
russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:32 am
Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:05 am
the only changes that I was doing I changed between injector simultaneously or sequential ...
This is supposed to work funny since you do not have cam sensor but it's supposed to work. Do you want to try un-doing sequential back to simultaneous?
I will check again simultaneous !!!

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:46 am
by russian
russian wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:37 am
You have cranking coolant multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

You have cranking TPS multiplier set to zero - this multiples your fuel by zero and you get zero fuel.

Please set both curves to "1" if you do not want to use those. Please set to something else if you want your cranking to depend on your CLT.
There is now a warning code for this case :)

https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/commit ... 701d5723d5

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:06 am
by Abricos
YES
that was the problem
I had a zero there
I changed to one (see photo below )
it started working :mrgreen:
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:51 am
by Abricos
to use sequential do i need CAM sensor ?

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:21 am
by mck1117
Abricos wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:51 am
to use sequential do i need CAM sensor ?
You can run sequential without a cam sensor. However, it may inject 360 degrees out of phase. There's a 50/50 chance of it being correct or "wrong". That said, I ran my engine for 5000mi/8000km without a cam sensor and it set to sequential, and I couldn't tell if it started in phase or out of phase.

tl;dr: you can safely set it to sequential

Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:34 am
by Abricos
idle control ...
i have cable throttle body ...
but inside (throttle body) there is also electric motor ...
so 2 in one ETB and MTB ...
ETB is for idle control and Cruise control ...
what do you think how will it work ??

p.s.do not listen to what I say on the video :mrgreen:


Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:16 pm
by Abricos
maybe anyone have extra time to see the date log
and maybe you see what improvements can be made
I am very interested how to tune Injection Phase ???
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:48 am
by Abricos
date log from drag race
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Re: Моё Чудо ... VW Passat B4 ABA ... #16

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:51 pm
by mck1117
Abricos wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:16 pm
I am very interested how to tune Injection Phase ???
For engines like ours, injection phase doesn't really matter much. You will probably get slightly better emissions, cold start, and idle smoothness if you inject against a closed valve so the fuel vaporizes fully by the time the valve opens. I was unable to observe any difference on my car playing with the injection phase. The injection phase table indicates the END of injection, in degrees after top dead center. So -360 means that injection will finish just as the intake valve is opening. Set it to -400 and call it good.

So how do you tune it? You need an engine dyno, an ultra-expensive exhaust gas analyzer, and an unbelievable amount of time.