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I had a go at a 3D printed case in fusion 360. Obviously not waterproof but I figured it would be better to include ventilation as I assume it will run warm.

I will share the model files and stl when i get a chance.
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Any ECU could be any color as long as that color is orange.
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I would love to post this on Facebook once you have the files published! I can pull request these files into the official github repository if you attach to the forum or just PR directly?
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Probably doesn't run warm enough to need the vents - I'd be more concerned about gunk getting in than heat getting out! A spray conformal coat might be a good idea on the pcb if it's exposed like that.

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I have created an unvented version and sent all the files to Andrey to drop into github.

I have kept the LED holes with thought of adding printed light pipes.
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Just an FYI, the attached STL files have now been tested and confirmed to work and fit.
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OrchardPerformance wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:26 am
Just an FYI, the attached STL files have now been tested and confirmed to work and fit.
https://github.com/mck1117/proteus/issues/69 created
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SVeilleux9 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:22 am
Hoping to be able to get (a basic) 4l80e trans control algorithm up and running also.
I'd really like to do this with a similar application (V8 + 4l80e). Is it supported in the firmware?

Any updates @SVeilleux9?

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bumble wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:39 pm
SVeilleux9 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:22 am
Hoping to be able to get (a basic) 4l80e trans control algorithm up and running also.
I'd really like to do this with a similar application (V8 + 4l80e). Is it supported in the firmware?

Any updates @SVeilleux9?
Hi Bumble,

To keep things short life has gotten in the way of me working on this and my cars right now. I have set things back up so I can get back to working on some stuff but with my vehicles over 3 hours away any Proteus work is going to take a back seat. In the meantime welcome to the forum and group :)

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Totally understood! Thanks, and look forward to an update once you can get back to it!

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bumble wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:39 pm
SVeilleux9 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:22 am
Hoping to be able to get (a basic) 4l80e trans control algorithm up and running also.
I'd really like to do this with a similar application (V8 + 4l80e). Is it supported in the firmware?

Any updates @SVeilleux9?
There are transmission control firmware efforts slowly progressing. For example: https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/pull/1798

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mck1117 wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:31 pm
There are transmission control firmware efforts slowly progressing. For example: https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/pull/1798
So, functionality isn't quite there, or present but being refined?

Regardless, if there's another batch of partially assembled Proteus boards being considered, count me in for two or three!

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bumble wrote:Totally understood! Thanks, and look forward to an update once you can get back to it!
There are quite a few people who have easily and successfully made arduino based transmission controllers. I can talk with my mate about potentially making a kit configurable to a number of transmissions

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bumble wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:49 pm
So, functionality isn't quite there, or present but being refined?
Not yet present. We're working on getting the building blocks in place in a well thought out (read: flexible) and well integrated way, but nobody has yet actually controlled a transmission with it :)
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Regardless, if there's another batch of partially assembled Proteus boards being considered, count me in for two or three!
There are a few boards remaining on the shelf in this batch - PM me if you're interested in getting your hands on some!

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Boostonabudget wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:46 am
There are quite a few people who have easily and successfully made arduino based transmission controllers. I can talk with my mate about potentially making a kit configurable to a number of transmissions
I planned on going this route myself, but an All-In-One solution is really appealing!

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mck1117 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:35 am
Not yet present. We're working on getting the building blocks in place in a well thought out (read: flexible) and well integrated way, but nobody has yet actually controlled a transmission with it :)
Vehicle 1 (the V8) has a manual transmission and the auto (4l80e) is built and ready to swap in. It is currently equipped with another DIY ECU and is 36-1 crank, sequential injection, and individual coils. I would anticipate getting the engine up and running before making the trans. swap, so if functionality is on the way with the existing hardware, that should be workable.

Vehicle 2 is an I4 with an A340 trans. which has throttle-cable pressure regulation, so it's even simpler than the 4l80e which needs PWM control of the EPC solenoid. Not sure about the gauge situation on this one and may need to retain the OEM ECU in a piggyback fashion.
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There are a few boards remaining on the shelf in this batch - PM me if you're interested in getting your hands on some!
Which revision?

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Please move TCU discussion out of this thread. Proper structure of communications is very important for me.
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AndreyB wrote:
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Please move TCU discussion out of this thread. Proper structure of communications is very important for me.
Certainly! I was uncertain whether Proteus with Transmission Control is better for Proteus thread or if Transmission Control on Proteus should be in a Transmission Control thread.

Is there an existing thread that this should join or should a new one be started?

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bumble wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 am
mck1117 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:35 am
There are a few boards remaining on the shelf in this batch - PM me if you're interested in getting your hands on some!
Which revision?
0.4

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. mck1117 wrote: ↑
There are a few boards remaining on the shelf in this batch - PM me if you're interested in getting your hands on some!

Does this mean the others have been shipped?

Thanks, and I may still be interested in another board if no one else wants one.

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Joey120373 wrote:
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. mck1117 wrote: ↑
There are a few boards remaining on the shelf in this batch - PM me if you're interested in getting your hands on some!

Does this mean the others have been shipped?

Thanks, and I may still be interested in another board if no one else wants one.
Some have shipped - more will ship soon, and yes, there see a few more available.

You have a PM!

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When you say partially assembled, what's left to assemble when you receive the boards from China?

I'm interested in this board for a Gen3 Hemi and perhaps a HellCat engine using one DBW for the main TB and the second DBW to control the boost valve. The Hellcat also uses multiple MAP sensors.

I test all my builds on my own engine dyno and I'm also an embedded software developer, so I could modify the firmware to work with the HellCat engines.

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monettes wrote:
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When you say partially assembled, what's left to assemble when you receive the boards from China?

I'm interested in this board for a Gen3 Hemi and perhaps a HellCat engine using one DBW for the main TB and the second DBW to control the boost valve. The Hellcat also uses multiple MAP sensors.

I test all my builds on my own engine dyno and I'm also an embedded software developer, so I could modify the firmware to work with the HellCat engines.

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That should be supported fully by the current firmware. The non-China parts are the injector drivers, connectors, 5v sensor supply regulators, and that's about it.

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monettes wrote:
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When you say partially assembled, what's left to assemble when you receive the boards from China?
Yes.

But Matt @mck1117 would love to move it from "China" state into "working" state, see prices at https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37503#p37503
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sent a PM, but thought I would post here in case someone has an easy fix.

I got both boards a few days ago, thanks!

I attempted to use an older version of the console i had on my laptop to communicate, I had previously ( months ago ) been using it to play around with an STM32F767 dev board.

No luck, I figured i just needed to get the correct "bundle" . However, at some point, playing around with them, one board quit blinking the blue LED and lost the amber LED. Just the green power LED would light.

So tonight i had some time, i found the correct bundle (I think) :
snapshot_20201026_222241_proteus_f7_rusefi

opened that up and was able to get the console to communicate with the working board, so i pointed tuner studio to the included ".ini" file and was able to get TS to communicate, though it does report a signature missmatch, seems to work ok as far as i can tell.

The other board though is just not recognized. I can use the console in DFU mode to update the firmware, and that seems to work fine. But still nothing but a green LED and no "STMicroelectronics Virtual COM Port"
in my device manager.

so I am guessing, somehow i erased the virtual com port on that board? wondering what i need to do to get it back on there?

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Ah - you need the f4 bundle. It's recommended to use one of our "stable" releases from this page:

https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/download
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Yep, that did it. I guess I didn’t read up enough, I thought the proteus was still using the F7 chip. Why the change?, or has it always used the F429 and I just confused myself playing around with the F767.... :? :? :roll:

Looking at the specs the F429 looks like a beast with plenty of memory to spare.

Both boards testing fine now with the console and TS.

One other quick question, those 3D printed cases, and chance I could buy one or 2 from someone? I don’t own a 3d printer and don’t have access to one.

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Joey120373 wrote:
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Yep, that did it. I guess I didn’t read up enough, I thought the proteus was still using the F7 chip. Why the change?, or has it always used the F429 and I just confused myself playing around with the F767.... :? :? :roll:

Looking at the specs the F429 looks like a beast with plenty of memory to spare.
The F429 and F767 in LQFP144 are actually 100% pin compatible, so you could desolder the F429 and swap with an F767 and it'd work if you really wanted to :lol:

The switch to F429 was because some actual analysis of the performance gain of the F7 over the F4 determined that it wasn't actually getting us very much gain, and the F4 was plenty.

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