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Snake____1 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:23 pm
Those original (M73) throttle bodies are twin 2xstepper motor based, unless you plan on using M70 throttle bodies you cannot use these with the proteus. Sorry :(
i ditched the throttle bodies. LKQ pickYourPart wanted $40 each for them.
I can buy a more modern one... for that kind of $$

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Snake____1 wrote:
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A batch of v0.3 boards has been ordered! I have 25 boards enroute to me near Seattle, and half-ish will get forwarded on to CrazyStriker in France.

I'll keep y'all posted as they're fabbed!
If you have one spare, I would be interested on running one on my BMW M70 V12 E36 build? I live in Norway, so shipping wise CrazyStriker would be closest.
I think this batch is all spoken for already. I'll keep y'all posted if there are more that happen in the future.

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If it's comes with all those connectors - count me in (with shipping from crazystriker).

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One thing to watch out for, we have just discovered shipping into Norway from the rest of the EU means you get stung with 25% vat, so be aware of that.

If this first batch goes OK and we get a good case solution together this is probably something I will keep in stock in the UK.
Now keeping MRE and Proteus in stock in the UK, PM or slack for details.

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So v12 is rusEFI niche?!
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AndreyB wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:46 pm
So v12 is rusEFI niche?!
Apparently! I think at least a few from this batch are planned to run V12s, which is awesome!

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Congratulations. this pile looks very nice :)

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Current status, on the batch of 25x v0.3 boards:
  • 12 boards shipped to @CrazyStriker to be finished in France
  • 1 board installed in my car, and been driving for a few days
  • 1 bare board shipped to @AndreyB
  • 1 fully assembled board shipped to @alanmhayes
  • 10 boards mostly tested, not yet shipped
Currently waiting on connector pins to be able to ship the remainder, and those should be here on Tuesday, May 19th.

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you mean to say all these 25 boards have their owners? Will CrazyStriker get those boards with connectors?

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All boards with connectors have now run my v8 car!

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mck1117 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:33 am
All boards with connectors have now run my v8 car!
That engine was thinking "WFT is going on here?!"
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Would love to get one on these if there is another run of them.

Planning a big V8 with possibly 2 DBW throttle bodies.

Very new to RUSefi, so lots of research to do.

If there isn’t another run of them then I can always DIY it.

Curious to know how many people are using the DBW feature and how well it works?

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I see that your board uses the STM32F7xxx
Micro, I think I have a Nucleo 411 dev board that has the same micro, wondering if I can use that to test the code on?

I am pretty new to the STM stuff, I did a little playing around awhile back using the Mbed online IDE, But outside of that I’m pretty much an Arduino hack.

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mck1117 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:33 am
All boards with connectors have now run my v8 car!
Please start shipping to v12 people! :roll:
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Well, if all of those boards are spoken for, I can have some made.

I downloaded the KiCad file last night and looked at it, the Gerber file on the git didn’t work directly, but the PCB file looks just fine, I may just use that to generate the Gerbers and send those off.

Great looking board, thank you for sharing.

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please note that we use jlcpcb to have them 80% assembled
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when do you expect to have the second batch? I don't see them on sale either in USA or in Europe.

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puff wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 1:50 pm
when do you expect to have the second batch? I don't see them on sale either in USA or in Europe.
You don't see them on sale since at the moment no one is announcing plans to start fabricating them :) Let me check with Matt if I should start fabricating those.

Or maybe you want to start fabricating and selling those? See https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hardware-Proteus-Fabrication for relevant info.
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I suspect that Matt was looking to get some external validation on the existing batch of boards. I suspect that waiting a week or something like that would either validate that the design is good and solid, or it might find some kind of issue that can be resolved on the next batch. I believe the existing batch has only been validated by Matt on Matt's equipment. You get an entirely different level of validation when others do something with it. I think Matt is trying to ease into it, so that if there are changes it has minimal heartburn for everyone.
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mck1117 wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:39 pm
AndreyB wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:46 pm
So v12 is rusEFI niche?!
Apparently! I think at least a few from this batch are planned to run V12s, which is awesome!
speaking of V-12's

do you guys want to come up with a standardized PIN-OUT for the V-12?
so we can all wire the boards the same for the injectors/coils/cam sensor/ crank sensor/ MAP sensor/ etc?
make life easier, i reckon
Just post how you are wiring it, and i will copy your layout.

Thanks!!!
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bill wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:06 pm
speaking of V-12's

do you guys want to come up with a standardized PIN-OUT for the V-12?
so we can all wire the boards the same for the injectors/coils/cam sensor/ crank sensor/ MAP sensor/ etc?
make life easier, i reckon
Just post how you are wiring it, and i will copy your layout.
Great point, https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1749 started - let's move Proteus v12 discussion to that thread.
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I am happy to start rumors of a second batch!

There will probably be changes to make fabrication easier, there will definitely be a price bump.
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a price bump - that's a pity! :-( how do you justify it?
what are the expected changes?

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Puff, Are you offering soldering things by hand for free?
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just curious about the reasons for that price bump - you mean to say, the first batch didn't require soldering by hand?

any chance for availablility of cheaper semi-finished versions (hand soldering a set of soics to save a few tenners seems reasonable to me)

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First batch was a trial one, with some culprits in board design that have been solved. It is now normal to see higher pricing especially considering the work involved for each board. If the formula doesn't satisfy you you still have the option to order boards from JLC directly as the design is fully open source. You're paying for supply chain as well as time involved. Proteus will probably end up following the same pricing system as every other RE based boards.

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not sure what you mean about RE pricing system, but let's wait for the actual prices then.
that was exactly elimination of logistics issues and headaches, which made that offering (afaiu, expeced $150-200 shipped, with all the needed connectors) such attracting.

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I would be happy to buy one if more are comming

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AndreyB wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:37 am
I am happy to start rumors of a second batch!

There will probably be changes to make fabrication easier, there will definitely be a price bump.
Where did you hear such a rumor :o
puff wrote:
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just curious about the reasons for that price bump - you mean to say, the first batch didn't require soldering by hand?
One reason for a price bump is that the US-assembled batch of 0.3 boards had free connectors from TE. The connectors and pins together are around $60. The first batch did require hand soldering, but it was also a beta run to help get more boards out in to the wild to detect issues.
puff wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 11:56 am
any chance for availablility of cheaper semi-finished versions (hand soldering a set of soics to save a few tenners seems reasonable to me)
Seems reasonable to me too.

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