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154 pin connector 284617-1

Post by russian » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:35 pm

See also https://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title ... rs#154_pin

2004 audi ecu connector
2006 audi ecu connector

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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by russian » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:39 pm

Not cheap but much better then nothing

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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by russian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:07 pm

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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by russian » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:35 am

Paper test with a used connector was a success! I will be ordering a batch of these boards soon, just need to improve silkscreen a bit.
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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by russian » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:45 am

2009 passat ECU has a few of these huge caps. The bigger one is at least an inch and a half long!
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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by kb1gtt » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:41 am

I've heard claims that if you leave your battery completely disconnected on the 2000-ish Jetta, when you reconnect the battery it will act like a completely new animal. I have seen similar caps used on industrial PLC's to store enough energy to keep the PLC's memory for around 2 weeks. These caps might be storing enough energy to power the board when the 12V has been powered. However 75V and 125V is quite high, so perhaps its doing something different.
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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by Dron_Gus » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:41 am

May be these caps used to absorb energy from inductive loads during switch off?

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Re: 154 pin connector

Post by Abricos » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:07 pm

Capacitors maybe for electronic throttle body ...

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Re: 154 pin connector 284617-1

Post by russian » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:29 am

First batch has arrived! We got it mostly right with a couple of smaller issues.
1) Corners are hitting the plastic
2) P18 P19 etc silkscreen is hitting useful silkscreen
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Re: 154 pin connector 284617-1

Post by kb1gtt » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:06 pm

TE was kind enough to make this a real pain. The 3D models are not accurate, as they are missing that feature. The 2D PDF shows the PCB edge which appears to match your real world, but that does not have dimensions. So I PDF2DXF'ed it, then I opened it in onshape. The scale was all messed up and wrong. Once I had the DXF which is perhaps the PCB edge, KICAD was a pain. I eventually figured out that after it's imported into KICAD I had to move it from one layer to another, then it sticks. If I don't do this, then for some reason it doesn't save the imported DXF stuff. When I move the layer, it appears it cleans up some import issue, then it saves. Any how, does this look like the profile you see in the real world? See white line below.
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Re: 154 pin connector 284617-1

Post by OrchardPerformance » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:36 pm

Pretty sure that big Epcos Cap is for the direct injectors. They will be firing at ~60v so those two big orange 75v caps are likely to provide the big jolt needed to do the initial opening.

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Re: 154 pin connector 284617-1

Post by russian » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:39 pm

OrchardPerformance wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:36 pm
Pretty sure that big Epcos Cap is for the direct injectors. They will be firing at ~60v so those two big orange 75v caps are likely to provide the big jolt needed to do the initial opening.
The fact that we see the same thing inside BMW FUEL INJECTION CONTROL MODULEs supports your theory see viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1504&start=30
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