[rusEfi] Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
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Today I testedrussian wrote:Please connect
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And the clip video below...
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เราไม่ได้ยินเสียงเครื่องยนต์? เป็นเครื่องยนต์รุ่นนี้ควบคุมโดย rusefi? กรุณาชี้แจงฉันอยากรู้จริงๆสิ่งที่เกิดขึ้นและถ้าคุณมีรถ # 6?Tambralinga wrote:[video][/video]
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russian wrote:เราไม่ได้ยินเสียงเครื่องยนต์? เป็นเครื่องยนต์รุ่นนี้ควบคุมโดย rusefi? กรุณาชี้แจงฉันอยากรู้จริงๆสิ่งที่เกิดขึ้นและถ้าคุณมีรถ # 6?Tambralinga wrote:[video][/video]
I was test the FRK and rusEFI r.4560 with Tuning Studio on Mitsubishi 4G63.
When the Ignition table = 0 it should be display value about 600-700, Below clip.
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710 means -10 (the range was from 0 to 720)
I have just changed it to be more user-friendly, please update dev console. Also dev console has 'Timing' gauge which shows timing without the usage of logic input
How did you get this Tuner Studio gauge? I want to fix it also.
I have just changed it to be more user-friendly, please update dev console. Also dev console has 'Timing' gauge which shows timing without the usage of logic input
How did you get this Tuner Studio gauge? I want to fix it also.
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Are you using some wide-band O2 sensor or a narrow-band O2?
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I use wide-band sensor.russian wrote:Are you using some wide-band O2 sensor or a narrow-band O2?
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Did you manage to feed the WBO signal info rusEfi? Do you know the parameters of the analog WBO output? I do not remember if we have covered this.Tambralinga wrote:I use wide-band sensor.
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russian wrote:Did you manage to feed the WBO signal info rusEfi? Do you know the parameters of the analog WBO output? I do not remember if we have covered this.Tambralinga wrote:I use wide-band sensor.
I am not 1000% sure but it looks like you are running the with rusEfi? Congratulations on being the first rusEfi installation in Asia!
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/MTXL.php
This model have 2 analog output have spec in web.
Within days I had to take the analog signal into rusefi.
I have been using the E85 fuel can be used generally.
Timing degree in new dev it work.
My problem now if the engine is cold, it starts engine very hard.
If the engine hot is very easy to start.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
Try changing Cranking Fuel parameters? Does your CLT shows the right value?Tambralinga wrote:My problem now if the engine is cold, it starts engine very hard.
If the engine hot is very easy to start.
Edit: http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual:Software:dev_console_commands#Fuel_Control has an explanation of the values
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
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float getCoolantTemperature(void) {
float temperature = getTemperatureC(&engineConfiguration2->clt);
if (!isValidCoolantTemperature(temperature)) {
warning(OBD_PCM_Processor_Fault, "unrealistic CLT %f", temperature);
return LIMPING_MODE_CLT_TEMPERATURE;
}
return temperature;
}
void setThermistorConfiguration(ThermistorConf * tc, float tempC1, float r1, float tempC2, float r2, float tempC3,
float r3) {
tc->tempC_1 = tempC1;
tc->resistance_1 = r1;
tc->tempC_2 = tempC2;
tc->resistance_2 = r2;
tc->tempC_3 = tempC3;
tc->resistance_3 = r3;
}
void prepareThermistorCurve(ThermistorConf * config) {
float T1 = config->tempC_1 + KELV;
float T2 = config->tempC_2 + KELV;
float T3 = config->tempC_3 + KELV;
float L1 = logf(config->resistance_1);
float L2 = logf(config->resistance_2);
float L3 = logf(config->resistance_3);
float Y1 = 1 / T1;
float Y2 = 1 / T2;
float Y3 = 1 / T3;
float U2 = (Y2 - Y1) / (L2 - L1);
float U3 = (Y3 - Y1) / (L3 - L1);
config->s_h_c = (U3 - U2) / (L3 - L2) * pow(L1 + L2 + L3, -1);
config->s_h_b = U2 - config->s_h_c * (L1 * L1 + L1 * L2 + L2 * L2);
config->s_h_a = Y1 - (config->s_h_b + L1 * L1 * config->s_h_c) * L1;
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
tempinfo should show CLT calculated resistance, please tell us what the value is? Please also disconnect FRK and measure the resistance between GND and CLT wire. Let's make the sure the resistance is calculated correctly.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
https://www.diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n52/usdm-mitsu-galant-9192-4g63-mt.html
Sensor Calibration
I have to solve the bias resistor?
How much is a default now for set_cranking_fuel_min?
Sensor Calibration
I have to solve the bias resistor?
How much is a default now for set_cranking_fuel_min?
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bias resistor can vary, as long as rusEfi has the value of YOUR bias resistor
tempinfo should show CLT calculated resistance, please tell us what the value is? Please also disconnect FRK and measure the resistance between GND and CLT wire. Let's make the sure the resistance is calculated correctly. We need this info.
tempinfo should show CLT calculated resistance, please tell us what the value is? Please also disconnect FRK and measure the resistance between GND and CLT wire. Let's make the sure the resistance is calculated correctly. We need this info.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
russian wrote:bias resistor can vary, as long as rusEfi has the value of YOUR bias resistor
tempinfo should show CLT calculated resistance, please tell us what the value is? Please also disconnect FRK and measure the resistance between GND and CLT wire. Let's make the sure the resistance is calculated correctly. We need this info.
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2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
2014-09-11 18_03: PortHolder: Sending [sec!8!tempinfo]
devconsole can not open command tempinfo.
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close console, restart rusEfi, open console. Is it connected to the right port - does it send any commands? analoginfo?
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
100C=200 ohm <<Actual measurements
CLT v=0.60219 C=76.68258 R=369.71514 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
90C=250 ohm <<Actual measurements
CLT v=0.67399 C=74.31204 R=420.66046 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
80C=320 ohm << Actual measurements
CLT v=0.81318 C=69.62722 R=524.40942 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
70C=460 ohm <<Actual measurements
CLT v=0.97875 C=63.91656 R=657.16888 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
60C=610 ohm <<Actual measurements
CLT v=1.22051 C=55.36938 R=871.91314 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
50C=900 ohm <<Actual measurements
CLT v=1.49304 C=45.61248 R=1149.48815 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00271 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
25C=2080ohm
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That's some great data here!
The values are not that far off, to make them better you need to make the top temperature setting more accurate (I will now rename "temperature3" to "highest temperature")
Let's try C=120.0 R=100.0 as highest temp setting, I think I saw that value in some datasheet.
Once again, great information!
The values are not that far off, to make them better you need to make the top temperature setting more accurate (I will now rename "temperature3" to "highest temperature")
Let's try C=120.0 R=100.0 as highest temp setting, I think I saw that value in some datasheet.
Once again, great information!
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
100C=200 ohmrussian wrote:That's some great data here!
The values are not that far off, to make them better you need to make the top temperature setting more accurate (I will now rename "temperature3" to "highest temperature")
Let's try C=120.0 R=100.0 as highest temp setting, I think I saw that value in some datasheet.
Once again, great information!
CLT v=0.60073 C=98.95666 R=368.69274 on channel 6
2014-09-12 00_46: EngineState: bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
90C=250 ohm
CLT v=0.67399 C=95.19921 R=420.66046 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
80C=320 ohm
CLT v=0.80439 C=88.45339 R=517.65319 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
70C=460 ohm
CLT v=0.98608 C=78.96820 R=663.29620 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
60C=610 ohm
CLT v=1.19560 C=67.99774 R=848.52697 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
50=900 ohm
CLT v=1.44322 C=55.21035 R=1095.57165 on channel 6
bias=2700.00000 A=0.00248 B=0.00000 C=-0.00000
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As you see this got us closer to real values. I think we are good enough, in order to get better values we need more precise data on the sensor.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
This value ok.
How to check set_cranking_fuel_min and set_cranking_fuel_max?
You have command for check?
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Same tempinfo shows the cranking fuel parameters. I've just changed fuelinfo to show current cranking fuel value at current temperature, but you would need latest version 4633. Please note that this version would reset your configuration to default.
I am working on improving the update process so that configuration is not reset that often but this is not ready yet.
I am working on improving the update process so that configuration is not reset that often but this is not ready yet.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
Now everything works correctly.
I want just the engine mivec control functions only.
I want just the engine mivec control functions only.
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Sure, let's get you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIVEC
Do you know if your engine is an earlier two-profiler system or something continues? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing#Continuous_versus_discrete?
You would need to figure out electronic characteristics of the control mechanism - is it low-side or high-side driving? Is it PWM or continues signal?
Do you know if your engine is an earlier two-profiler system or something continues? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing#Continuous_versus_discrete?
You would need to figure out electronic characteristics of the control mechanism - is it low-side or high-side driving? Is it PWM or continues signal?
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
I want to open solenoid at 5000-5500 RPM output signal GND to solenoid.russian wrote:Sure, let's get you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIVEC
Do you know if your engine is an earlier two-profiler system or something continues? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing#Continuous_versus_discrete?
You would need to figure out electronic characteristics of the control mechanism - is it low-side or high-side driving? Is it PWM or continues signal?
It can use low-side output GND .
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
4g92 generation 1 non md
ecu pin 109
http://webhost1.inspire.net.nz/~alphaspr/MIVEC/wiring/4g92_ecu_auto.htm
ecu pin 109
http://webhost1.inspire.net.nz/~alphaspr/MIVEC/wiring/4g92_ecu_auto.htm
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I want to implement EGT gauge within the next couple of days and then some simple GPIO would be next - GPIO would let you run your simple VVT. See https://sourceforge.net/p/rusefi/tickets/95/
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
If the shift light function can I use instead mivec .
If possible, I want to have two channels.
If possible, I want to have two channels.
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Re: Mitsubishi 4G63 and 4G92 (#6)
I am really interested in some details on this For example, have you driven your car under runEfi power?Tambralinga wrote:Now everything works correctly.
I am done working on EGT but now I need to figure out something for my own mule - I would be buzy with that. Do you have any software developers to implement a first basic version of GPIO which you need for VVT? I can write down how I see the first trivial implementation so that any available developer could implement it.
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