Ford 60 pin EEC-IV connector breakout board

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Ford 60 pin EEC-IV connector breakout board

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Drew is looking to rusEfi a Mustang V8. I've asked Drew to grab a couple of used ford eec iv ECUs and extract the connector for us to be able to make a breakout board.
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Unless someone knows the proper part number for this connector and there is a drawing online somewhere?
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This may be cheating, but the Megasquirt guys sell an adapter board and the connector:

https://www.diyautotune.com/product/diybob-breakout-adapter-ford-60-pin-no-connector/

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stefanst wrote:
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This may be cheating, but the Megasquirt guys sell an adapter board and the connector
Yep, we are looking to have our version of the same exact thing. Maybe a PnP Mustang one day as well :)
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On the more application-oriented side: Are we keeping the TFI and distributor? Just using the vanes in the distributor to read position and do individual coils? Install a crank-sensor for improved resolution? Sooo many options....

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Hello, I've been a long time follower but just signed up.

I am also interested in the Ford 60 pin connector. I have desoldered several and measured them up. I have a dxf file that I think is fairly close. I have tested the fit by 3D printing a mockup "PCB" and the connector seems to fit quite well. I have been trying to build a custom footprint in KICAD and I am nearly done, but it is hard for me because I do not really know how to use KICAD.

I am definitely willing to share the file, I am just unsure how. I've got both the DXF and my attempt at a custom footprint for KICAD.

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firebat45 wrote:
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I am just unsure how. I've got both the DXF and my attempt at a custom footprint for KICAD.
Can you attach a .zip file here please? That would be pretty cool! There is good chance that someone would be able to either guide you or properly package it into our folder structure and make it into a breakout board.
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(edit) here is a link to the files on Google Drive and attached



My project is for a different Ford, but the connector is the same (not the pinout). My goal is to have a PCB that bolts in place of the original ECU PCB, and is compatible with the stock wiring harness.
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is that a rusEfi project?

While microRusEfi is not an ideal module it looks like cooking an adapter board between microRusEfi and a large OEM is simple than designing a board from scratch, also helps by using a unified and relatively proven central piece.
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Yes, my project is a rusEFI project. I have built several Frankenstein boards for testing and prototyping with. I would like to collapse it all down into one PCB once I have verified everything working.

One thing to note - I notice in the data of the kicad_mod file that the drill holes for the pins is 0.762mm. That will not work. My DXF has the holes at 1.6mm. I apologize for the error, like I said I am very new to KICAD and creating footprints. The DXF is accurate, but the kicad_mod file should be taken with a grain of salt.

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@firebat45 I like your way of saying hello. Good to see the contribution.

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Some crispy Ford 60 pins and who-knows-how-many-pins EEC-V connectors are going to travel North tomorrow.

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Works better when you whack it against a tree, but I guess in NJ they don't like tree's. I see they cut down the one in your font walk way. So you did the best you could with what you had.
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You can also bake the ECU in a toaster oven or real oven for 10 minutes or so at 400F - 450F and then just tap it upside down to have most components just fall off. No scorching or damage to the ECU connector. Some of the caps onboard the ECU will pop, so it's best to do it with a "garage" oven, not the one inside your house. Nasty fumes.

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Jim says the EEC-V plug uses 104 pins. At this point we have no one interested in the 104 pin breakout board.
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The EEC-V is programmable in the first place, so unless you are doing something wild it can be reprogrammed to suit.

Tested out the footprint for the 60 pin, it worked beautifully. I changed the pads to 1.5mm (as I mentioned before) and renumbered the pads. The diagram I have from Ford actually shows the connector upside down, so instead of pin 1 being on the lower left it's actually top right.
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This look cool, is this KiCad? Can I have the files? :)
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Very nice! I keep trying to convince my brother to goo standalone on his 1990 V6 Ranger, maybe down the line I could cook up a plug and play solution for him with this adapter.
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AndreyB wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:30 am
Jim says the EEC-V plug uses 104 pins. At this point we have no one interested in the 104 pin breakout board.
Hi, I’m interested in a 104 pin breakout board.

Currently I’m brainstorming into making Plug-Play solution for the 1998-2003 Mazda Protegé. This cars have a Ford EEC-V ecu but they are hard to crack due to Mazda coding. Which led me to dive in the idea off using a micro rusefi ecu. Other guys have been able to use MegaSquirt and speeduino, but I want to make it happen with rusefi.
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I think this is the board that Andrey has been poking me about. Are you looking for just a board so you can solder wires to the ECU side of the connector?
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Yes, basically a Ford 104 Break out board to try multiple setups on different cars before I'll try to design a full pug a play like the one for NA6 and early NA8 miatas.

bellow is a list of EECV supported vehicles.

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Ohh, I can borrow a Ford Focus which might have it!!!
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I found this in another forum. It might help in the development of something similar.

It is Ford/OTC part number T96P-12A650-B.

It is meant as an interface between Mazda built Fords and the official EEC-V (Ford ECU) breakout box. Basically it allowed Ford tools to be used with Mazda ECUs. Many Asian ECUs used the same 76 pin connector.

There are many ways to use it, but between cutting the wires, the Ford connector, and even desoldering and replacing wires the options are pretty limitless for those of us who refuse to cut our harnesses.

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I've got a couple other project in font of me right now. Once I clear them I"m likely to make progress on the 60 pin.
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No worries. I post them mainly for future references.
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14A624-AA is a good search term including some versions available new from China.
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